Huh?
How’d he do that: A sheriff’s deputy who killed six young people at a house party in Crandon, Wisconsin, apparently died after shooting himself three times in the head with a .40-caliber pistol, the state attorney general said.
How’d he do that: A sheriff’s deputy who killed six young people at a house party in Crandon, Wisconsin, apparently died after shooting himself three times in the head with a .40-caliber pistol, the state attorney general said.
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October 10th, 2007 at 10:02 am
Is that even possible?
October 10th, 2007 at 10:05 am
I saw that this morning. My wife and I both thought that was rather ..umm…suspicious, to say the least. I’m not gonna come out and say that the AG is a liar but I haven’t been able to work out the mechanics of it yet.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:09 am
Duh.. He used a “Police Style Pistol”. For you and me, that’d be an assault pistol, capable of 3 round bursts or full auto selection that can mow down entire school buses full of school children from 3 miles away.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:13 am
I asked Sebastian that as I was driving home last night. I’m baffled.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:13 am
Oh, and Robb, the AG said that two of the head wounds he gave himself were non-lethal.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:17 am
I’m calling BS on that. The concussion from the first shot, even a non-lethal one, whould have most likely prevented a second shot, let alone a third.
I smell a cover-up.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:18 am
Well, you know, I once knew I guy when I worked in a prison who accidentally fell down the stairs. 7 times.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:19 am
Bitter, sorry. Forgot to close my sarcasm tag 😉
October 10th, 2007 at 10:49 am
I dunno. The human body is a lot more resilient than most people think. If he was stupid and tried through the mouth, aiming low… people have survived doing that to themselves with rifles. Usually they don’t have the energy to try and finish things, though.
I doubt it was the cops downing him. They don’t tend to get their until after the fact, I’d hope they’d be bringing a rifle or shotgun to the fight, and if the average police officer was using a pistol we’d be talking about the dozen bullets in the rest of him. SuperCop could have done it, I guess.
Of course, I kinda like this explanation if the issue weapon was something in 9mm or .45 and there weren’t any known CCWers around.
October 10th, 2007 at 11:03 am
BRINGS NEW MEANING TO THE SAYING S&W .40 CAL (SHORT AND WEAK) LOL!!!!!!
October 10th, 2007 at 11:20 am
Yeah, I was told by a doctor who worked for a short time at the Gun and Knife Club at Parkland that 85% of the gunshots to the head survived. The brainpan is pretty small compared to the head in general. Most people get shot in the jaw or the lower skull, which is only lethal if you bleed out. If the police had already wounded himself, then it isn’t that unbelievable that he had trouble finishing himself off.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Hell, I didn’t even know he had Vince Foster genes. Who woulda thunk it?
October 10th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/10/wisconsin.shooting/index.html
I have seen several cases of people shooting (including with a shotgun) themselves or others in the had without fatal results. I know its fun to come up with conspiracies and coverups, but incompetence is far more likely explanation. Besides, given that according to this story the police didn’t even get close enough to see him except for a sniper, apparently:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=672136
October 10th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
If you’re going to disable your brain with a handgun, don’t put the gun in your mouth. Put it directly between your eyes. Instant shutdown.
October 10th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
I once heard a story about a WWII German general who was supposed to commit suicide (for displeasing Hitler or something). He first shot himself by pointing the gun at his temple, but he missed his brain and survived. He quickly tried to recover and shoot himself in the head again. This time, he shot out both his eyes. Finally, the guards just killed him to put him out of his misery.
October 10th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
In the mouth is fine, just get it way back in there and point straight back. You gotta blow away the medulla oblongata to shut down autonomic function of the heart and lungs, and/or sever the spinal cord (for the same effect). Not a pleasant thought, I admit, but if you’re going to do something, you may as well do it right…
October 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
It’s good to see such determination. Entirely too rare these days.
October 10th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Remember the guy in Florida who shot a policeman and then took off into the woods? The sweep that finally found him shot over 110 rounds and hit him with 19 or so after he made a threatening gesture?
Wonder how many times this guy missed himself while commiting suicide?
October 10th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
police made no attempt to get him and he took a fuckign nap. The blue line is thick in them parts.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
I have been taught in training that 90% of all gunshot wounds are survivable. I have also been trained that the only sure way to instantly or almost instantly incapacitate someone is to shoot them in the lower rear part of the brain. This man had just murdered six people, if he was determined enough he could eventually get it right.
October 11th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Well, LKP, I survived both of mine. So for me, up to date, they are 100% survivable, but I wouldn’t want to do any further testing of that theory.:)