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1. Mikee Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 10:05 am

   So let me get this right- when you use the flashlight, you are pointing a shotgun at yourself??!!

2. SayUncle Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 10:08 am

   Err, yeah. Another reason why I don’t ever want one.

3. cliff Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 10:53 am

   Furthermore, in order to use said shotgun, which is normally pointed at your gut, you must hold it in one hand and pull a cotter pin safety out with the other. Only then can you fire the shell from a rather effete short barrel. Speaking of which, it is an AOW, but is it also an SBS? Do you need two tax stamps?

   I think I’ll pass.

4. Ahab Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am

   Seems like a good way to shoot yourself.

5. UNHchabo Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

   Speaking of which, it is an AOW, but is it also an SBS? Do you need two tax stamps?

   No, so far as I can tell. It has no stock, making it an AOW, just like the Serbu Super Shorty.

   Don’t quote me, but so far as I know, no NFA weapon requires two stamps. If you had a short-barreled full-auto shotgun, I’m pretty sure it would “only” be a machine gun, and require a single $200 stamp, rather than also being an SBS.

6. SayUncle Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

   no NFA weapon requires two stamps.

   A suppressed, shortbarreled rifle does.

7. UNHchabo Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

   A suppressed, shortbarreled rifle does.

   Technically though, that’s two “weapons”: the SBR, and the suppressor. If you take the suppressor off the SBR, you can sell them separately, requiring only one stamp per item.

   Is there any one item that would require two stamps? Am I wrong in saying that a full-auto SBS would require only one stamp?

8. Lyle Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

   “Am I wrong in saying that a full-auto SBS would require only one stamp?”

   Not if it’s anything like a Thompson, Uzi, et al, which have barrel lengths of under 16″ and are just automatic weapons requiring one stamp. A Stryker shotgun with a 12″ barrel is just a DD carrying one stamp, it’s not a DD plus an SBS. I knew a class III dealer and SOT manufacturer for years and I’ve never heard of any NFA item that required two stamps.

   The suppressor is a separate item, which can be swapped from one firearm to another. Many people who have suppressors use them on regular (non NFA) ARs, 10/22s, Rem 700s, and so on.

   I haven’t asked about an integrally-suppressed automatic however. Is the suppressed barrel considered a separately taxed item, and the auto sear another? I don’t know. Maybe. Would it depend on the design of the gun, and the ease of barrel removal? Maybe. Don’t know. That’s the problem with restricting technology and substances– there always another question. Whole legions of bureaucrats spend their time compiling and studying lists of trivia. Poor, miserable bastards.

   That Mag lite is, how did Cooper put it; a solution to a non existent problem?

9. Les Jones Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

   Or you could just hit the bad guy over the head with the Maglite.

   There. I just saved you $600. Don’t say I never gave you anything.

10. UNHchabo Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    That Mag lite is, how did Cooper put it; a solution to a non existent problem?

    Or maybe simply an engineering exercise?

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