Cooper Firearms Update
USA Today reports that Dan Cooper has resigned. Blames blogs. Sebastian gets a mention in the piece.
Our old pal Bob Ricker says we gun bloggers are wackos. And calls it McCarthyism.
Last night when the comments there totaled about 200, I noticed how stupid your average USA Today commenter was. I mean, they were like Bob Ricker stupid with references to McCarthyism and trampling first amendment rights. I guess they don’t realize that we bloggers were advocating using our first amendment rights to voice our concerns to the company. They also don’t seem to realize that McCarthyism does not include refusing to patronize a business for its political views. If Dan Cooper was being investigated by the .gov for his political views, the comparison might be valid. Seems like voicing our concerns to the company and voting with our dollars worked.
Anyway, glad Dan Cooper did the right thing and left the company. I just wish he’d instead have learned of Barack Obama’s record on guns and recanted.
October 31st, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I’m from Pennsylvania, a state full of pro-gun Democrats. It’s just not possible for me and thousands of others here, and across the nation, to sell the future of our nation down the tubes by supporting John McCain – even if I’m slightly more certain that he’d support the ONLY civil liberty that Republicans defend better than Democrats.
Barring something unforseen, it looks like McCain is going to lose anyway, and the country will be better off for it. It’s up to gun owners to advocate for themselves through the grassroots. Join the NRA, do whatever you feel you have to. But don’t pull this McCarthyist witch-hunt bullshit.
October 31st, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I don’t think you know what McCarthyism is.
October 31st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Chuck, read a friggin book sometime, and put the kool-aid down. YOU’RE selling the future of our republic down the river for an ambiguous man who wants to make the government the only people with firearms. Cause that’s worked out so well everywhere else it’s happened.
October 31st, 2008 at 12:52 pm
McCarthyism was infamous for blackballing professionals who had certain political beliefs.
People lost their livelihoods and careers for standing up for what they believed in, canned by employers who feared backlash.
I’d say that this is very much McCarthyism.
Is it a violation of Cooper’s First Amendment rights? Of course not. A corporation is not a government.
I simply think it is a sad commentary of any business that would can anyone for their political beliefs.
There are more than a few gun owners who are voting for Senator Obama – who will soon be President Obama.
October 31st, 2008 at 1:03 pm
“There are more than a few gun owners who are voting for Senator Obama – who will soon be President Obama.”
That only means there are more than few gun owners who are stupid. Possibly terminally so.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Mr Cooper had the right to legitimate dissent.
His dismissal was cowardly. I don’t expect all people to be rational when it comes to any kind of regulation on firearms, but to persecute someone for rational, lawful dissent is to undermine the very creative inception of America, and a defamation of the Constitution that the right to bear arms is supposed to protect.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:19 pm
McCarthyism was famous for using GOVERNMENT to blackball professionals who hold certian beliefs and thier businesses. As long as we have a free market…well as long as the free market survives the election…people getting together and notifiying a snake eating it’s own tail that we ain’t buying what he’s selling is called a boycott. See they already made a word for it, no need to try to make it what it’s not! It’s so much easier to tell the truth and not make up shit!
October 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Gun owners for Obama!?
You got to be kidding Right?
Did any of you Union imbeciles
take a long hard look at the
“Messiah’s” gun voting record.
Just wait until PETA, an organization
that also emphatically endorses
“the ONE who walks on water” gets
your African God to ban hunting!
Because “hunting” does not exist in
the 2nd A.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Jesus H. Christ, are these people for real.
So it is McCarthyism for me to take my business eleswhere when the owner of a company publically advocates for a candidate I find loathesome.
But, I suspect you Obama people would cheerfully hire Joe the Plumber to repair your toilet. Because if you didn’t, it would be “McCarthyism”.
The double standard is rather glaring.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
It’s so rich that all these lefties are pissing and moaning about a boycott. Seems to me that lefties are big fans of the boycott when it serves their purpose (“No Grapes” anyone?). Yeah, they’ll boycott up a storm when it suits them, but they’re screaming about McCarthyism over gun owners boycotting Cooper. Lefties have got to be yoga masters, because without yoga there would be no way to put your foot in your mouth while simultaneously having your head up your ass…
October 31st, 2008 at 6:11 pm
All I know is that in 4 days I will probably become a bitter American desperately clinging to my gun and my religion. As for anyone declaring my ignorance, sure go for it. I would rather be true to my own convictions and stand by the Bill of Rights and the Constitution then to lend support to a man who will ultimately destroy both of those documents and the freedom that they guarantee. Dan Cooper is entitled to his opinion. That opinion is dead wrong. Support for BO is going to do for us what support for the National Socialist Party did for a certain European country a half century ago.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
chupachoup Says:
October 31st, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Mr Cooper had the right to legitimate dissent.
His dismissal was cowardly. I don’t expect all people to be rational when it comes to any kind of regulation on firearms, but to persecute someone for rational, lawful dissent is to undermine the very creative inception of America, and a defamation of the Constitution that the right to bear arms is supposed to protect.
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Did you have a point in that incoherent rant? If so, I couldn’t find it.
Hey, doofus, we didn’t dismiss him. We didn’t fire him. We just informed him we wouldn’t give him our money, since he supports someone who not only wants to spread our wealth around, but wants to deny us the right to protect it or even our very lives.
We haven’t truncated his right to dissent, or free speech, or to contribute to anyone he wishes. We just informed he couldn’t do it with our money.
Yet you think we should be denied our opinions, our free exercise of our autonomy over how and where we spend our money. Something we didn’t do to him.
So the above begs several questions. Some relate to your intellect and some relate to your character. I suspect your intellect is fine, not so confident about your character.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Christ you rednecks are something else.
Ousting a CEO for something like that is rediculous
Maybe you should look into Republicans who support
gun control. I will even give you the link.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue11/dont_blame_liberals.htm
Your hero Ron Reagen was a big supporter of gun control
November 1st, 2008 at 8:40 am
well, we rednecks don’t know what ‘rediculous’ means. And yes, we’re critical of republicans who support gun control (search for Bloomberg or Romney or Giuliani in the top right). And we support pro gun democrats (try Feingold, Richardson).
My hero is not ‘Reagen’. But if you’re referring to Reagan, he did sign the Firearms Owners Protection Act.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:05 am
While I have never owned a cooper firearm, I am amazed that Dan cooper chose a career in the firearms industry in the first place. It is obvious, from his support of B. Hussein Obama, that he is totally out of touch with what is going on around him, and in the Country in general. It is an undeniable, irrefutable, fact that B. Hussein Obama, by virtue of his OWN voting record in the senate, is one of the most anti-gun (therefore, anti-Constitution, you don’t choose the parts you like and abolish the rest) politicians in the history of this nation.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:10 am
All I can get out of this sordid episode is that some gun afficianados are bullies and some are pussies. Those who call for someone’s firing because of their political views are bullies. Where would you be if your employer’s political views were different from yours? And those who cave in to that sort of pressure? They’re pussies. Better for Cooper Firearms to have said, “We respect the political views of all of everyone in the company.”
November 1st, 2008 at 11:32 am
I own guns but im not a gun fanatic. The people who can do this to Cooper are fanatics. They Live only for there guns and think there god. Shame on the people who can ruin this man. When Obama IS elected i hope all the fanatics pack up and move out of the usa with there tails between there legs and never come back..
November 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I didn’t call for his firing. I just said I would not buy their products.
Nope. Just people using their (note how it’s spelled) first amendment rights and their (note how it’s spelled) right not to patronize a business.
November 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
It is not only that Cooper is supporting someone that is going to be part of severely limiting the right to bear arms in this country, but someone that is going to put him out of business with his economic plan. If he is that stupid, he deserves whatever he gets. I for one would never purchase a rifle from Cooper Firearms (even with him resigning) because if he has that little commonsense the product must leave much to be desired.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 am
“When Obama IS elected i hope all the fanatics pack up and move out of the usa with there tails between there legs and never come back.”
And if we don’t will the O’one send his “Civilian Police Force” after us?