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A look at gun purchases as recorded by NICS. Look out, he has graphs. And will you dumb, cousin-humping rednecks stop buying guns. You have nothing to fear. Well, nothing to fear unless you have an assault weapon; or a handgun; or want to use one for self-defense; or carry one. As long as you’re law-abiding and don’t want to do any of that.
Related: A poll at insty’s indicates folks are burying AR-15s in their backyard. A few notes:
You’re better off burying it in someone else’s backyard if you’re trying to hide it. And you are, since your burying it. Of course, I don’t know why people try to hide it. I’d be proud. Gun owners (particularly evil black rifle owners) need to come out of the closet. Also, it makes them hard to get to if you need them.
And if you’re burying something, I’d bury a cheap AK or SKS as opposed to my spendy and more finicky AR-15. A little dirt in an AR has a more detrimental effect than it does on a Kalashnikov due to tighter tolerances.
Lastly, if you’re burying long term, you’ll need ammo too. So, make sure you get the non-corrosive kind.
Say, anyone know if, like guns, PVC pipe sales are booming now too?
December 9th, 2008 at 10:33 am
What’s this about coming out of the closet? I thought we weren’t supposed to “scare the white folks” — wouldn’t waving our ARs around scare ’em?
(sigh) I’m confused.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Waving ’em around might scare folks.. out in the street in front of your house. But taking them to the range and inviting others to join in the fun might work wonders.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Well, the scare the white folks bit is more about the whole threatening to kill people and bureaucrats; threats of revolution; and other gun nutty things. Not gun ownership.
I’m not sure why that differentiation isn’t clear.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:51 am
PVC is probably down along with everything else it takes to make a house.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:51 am
I think a little dirt in the action actually improves an AK.
December 9th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Boy does my timing suck, after waiting a long time I finally start an AR build project. I cant find an AR15 upper assembly anywhere!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Um, I think “corrosive ammo” is ammo that has corrosive primers and is likely to cause your gun to rust if you don’t clean it soon after every time you fire it. I don’t think it has anything to do with the ammo’s ability to withstand corrosion.
December 9th, 2008 at 11:56 am
I’ve seen corrosive primers rot when not stored in the recommended cool dry place.
December 9th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Actually I believe that corrosive primers will outlast non-corrosive primers all things being equal. Not saying they both won’t break down under adverse conditions, but remember non-corrosive primers didn’t exist until pretty much after WWII. And keep in mind how long some(still perfectly functional) surplus ammo has been around.
Of course we are not talking about cordite-loaded .303 Brit here, heh, heh.
December 9th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
If you’re intending to keep this gun buried for forty years than I’m thinking you’ve got bigger problems. Maybe one’s money would be better invested in machine and casting tools, blueprints, and a chemistry set in such a case?
December 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Those Vacuum seal bags are pretty tough. Oil the gun and toss in a pouch of desiccant, then vacuum seal it and put it in a sealed PVC pipe.
December 9th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
And don’t forget to “Seed” the area with nuts, bolts and varying sizes of scrap steel.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I bought all my PVC pipe in ’94.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
If we have to resort to hiding what we have a right to keep and carry, then…
“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
– Thomas Jefferson
December 10th, 2008 at 2:03 am
Clearances, not tolerances. CLEARANCES
SKSs are cheaper for the burying, anyway. I don’t think I have the balls to stick a $1K+ rifle in the ground…but SKS and Mosin Nagants are good, cheap burying fodder if you must.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:50 am
A buddy gave me some old 7.62X39 that is actually corroded. On the outside. The hulls are steel, and then copper-washed, but if the copper coating gets scratched down to the steel, the steel rusts. I suspect that the rusty spots make the hull too weak to stand up to firing pressure, so I go through the bucket o’old ammo every so often, and put all the rusty stuff into another container.
BTW, my 7.62X39 is one which was grandfathered in the late AWB, a Ruger Mini-30. It DOES NOT LIKE Russkie ammo, because it has a .308 barrel, not a .311 like an SKS or AK. It also doesn’t like the tough Russ primers, about a third of which don’t go off when struck. I have given up on Russ, and only shoot US-made ammo in it, or reloads I make myself with a Sierra 130-grain bullet in a US brass hull.
I looked at a recent Mini-30 and they now advise against shooting East Bloc ammo….
I would think twice before burying any Russ ammo, unless it’s in the original “spam” can it came in. Also, when you eventually dig it up, I’d examine every round before I put it in a magazine or stripper clip.
December 10th, 2008 at 5:34 am
A wise man once told me “If it’s time to bury them then it is time to use them.” Take it however you want…
December 10th, 2008 at 8:33 am
This is truth, and is the reason that military ammunition used corrosive primers longer than commercial ammunition; they are more stable for long term storage and less temperature sensitive. (The temp sensitivity issue is why the East Bloc never stopped using corrosive primers.)
If you have commercial “Kleen Bore” non-corrosive ammo from the ’30s, it’s probably deader than Elvis, but my stocks of WWI-era 8mm Lebel and 1930s-vintage 8x56mmR light off just fine.
December 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Ron, Hunter, you guys better shut up lest some white folks hear you talking that way.