Another gun bill signed by the governor
If you have a handgun carry permit, you can keep a sort of loaded rifle or shotgun in your vehicle. You can have the magazine in but not one in the chamber. No, I don’t know why that’s in there. Odd.
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June 13th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Safety precaution to prevent an accidental discharge maybe?
June 13th, 2009 at 10:48 am
The function is obvious. If the cop wants to let you go, he can let you go. If he wants to arrest you, he just chambers a round. That’s the way it functions.
June 13th, 2009 at 11:28 am
D2k: Especially in a fire.
June 13th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Speaking from a law enforcement viewpoint, that is exactly how we are required by policy to keep long guns in our vehicles. “Scout car ready” is the term we use. It is a safer condition for the gun to be in, and tactically, it really doesn’t make much difference. If I have time fetch it out of my trunk, or get it out of a locked carrier if kept up in the passenger compartment, then I have time to chamber a round.
Our long guns aren’t for immediate personal defense, like our handguns are.
June 13th, 2009 at 11:58 am
tanner, that is how i would keep one. just wondering why it’s required.
June 13th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Here in Utah it is legal to keep a firearm loaded in a vehicle during the hunting season if it is unable to be fired without chambering a round or cocking the firearm.
June 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I’ve heard some mention that certain rifles are not really drop safe. And if dropped with one in the chamber it can fire.
So it might be a discharge precaution. But hey, it’s still a plus.
June 14th, 2009 at 12:15 am
That’s the law here in Colorado. Still, once in a while someone will pull a loaded & chambered long gun out of a vehicle-by the barrel-and reap the whirlwind.
It’s a Darwin thing.
June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 am
You guys make me jealous (WA resident here.)
June 14th, 2009 at 8:54 am
N.U.G.U.N. Blog: There’s also a distinction between “drop safe” and “vehicle accident impact safe”. E.g. a lot of floating firing pin designs that are safe (enough) in human handling and dropping (straight down) might not be so when banged in an accident.
There’s an interesting case where a law enforcement officer’s modern Colt M1911 with the firing pin block was captured by the magnet of a MRI machine and it discharged. As best they can tell the firing pin block was pulled out of position by the MRI’s magnet during the process.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am
To clarify WA law: a firearm is considered to be loaded if the magazine has ammunition in it _and_ the magazine is inserted into the firearm; a loaded magazine sitting next to a firearm does not constitute a loaded firearm.
Personally, I’ve always thought this to be a reasonable safety precaution — as relates to rifles anyway. It’s not like it takes much time to pop the magazine in and chamber a round. As relates to pistols, I think it is one of the more asinine regulations around — with a pistol, if you _need_ it, you probably need it immediately and being loaded does not present the same safety concerns that handling a rifle in a car does.