My Neighbor JUST mowed his lawn for the first time last weekend. It would have been taller than a foot if the grass hadn’t started matting down. I’m glad I didn’t ask him to cut his grass! ; ]
(BTW he’s new to the neighborhood, and from the looks of his mower, he had just went out and bought it…money can be tight in these times!)
City was a little too anxious to cut the guy’s grass, but there was no excuse for pointing a shotgun at a strange person mowing your yard.
Advice to dude:
– Don’t point shotguns at unarmed people outside your house who are not threatening you.
– You don’t really seem like the kind of person who’s going to be happy in a property managed by a homeowner’s association.
I would have to say that the cops did thier job. Normally I’m not the most pro-cop guy, but it seems that there was some actual thought put into the response. More like this please.
It took seven paragraphs to get to the -real- story, which is the resident threatened to kill someone who was not a threat to him.
I don’t like cities passing ordinances telling you how to use or keep your property, but that isn’t why the police were involved. The resident pointed a shotgun at someone who, right or wrong, was cutting his grass. That is why the cops were involved. Just like Tam said, it is exactly what SWAT is meant to handle. And, things were resolved without anyone getting hurt.
Yes the man overreacted with the shotgun. And as a result the cops came. BUT, honestly, I would think non-ninja cops could have handled the situation. If later they found he had hostages, then well, it’s SWAT time.
I really wish cops didn’t dress like ninjas or the army (at a 4th of July celebration I saw cops with red berets, BDUs, and they marched with shotguns at port arms.
Excuuuuuuuuse me. But aren’t you the guys who are always talking about property rights being sacrosanct? You know, as in guns in employers’ parking lots, etc.
I am not taking a particular position on this issue, though I have one, because I thought I might point out the inconsistency here. If you believe in “My property, my rules”, then you cannot disapprove of the homeowners shotgun response to a stranger trespassing his property.
The guy had to sign the contract with the Homowners Ass. to live there. So he already signed away most of his property rights. This was a huge over-reaction by him to a non-threat on his property. The guy mowing his lawn isn’t an agent of tyranny (unless you are made of grass) so a simple “get off my lawn, jackass” would have sufficed.
If you are going to sign up for one of those piles of crap homeowners ass. then you don’t care that much about your property rights.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Pointing a shotgun at one of the city workers is a good way to get SWAT involved.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:21 am
I’m guessing it’s more standard to get the regular police involved.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:23 am
“Man with a shotgun inside dwelling” is what the cops call a “barricaded suspect with possible hostages”. It’s what SWAT was invented for.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:34 am
I’m usually the anti-cop guy (usually because the cops are clearly in the wrong), but this guy pretty much got exactly what he should have expected.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:19 am
My Neighbor JUST mowed his lawn for the first time last weekend. It would have been taller than a foot if the grass hadn’t started matting down. I’m glad I didn’t ask him to cut his grass! ; ]
(BTW he’s new to the neighborhood, and from the looks of his mower, he had just went out and bought it…money can be tight in these times!)
July 8th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Special Weeding And Topiary teams would be an improvement on the kinds of SWAT teams we’ve got now…
July 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
City was a little too anxious to cut the guy’s grass, but there was no excuse for pointing a shotgun at a strange person mowing your yard.
Advice to dude:
– Don’t point shotguns at unarmed people outside your house who are not threatening you.
– You don’t really seem like the kind of person who’s going to be happy in a property managed by a homeowner’s association.
July 8th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I would have to say that the cops did thier job. Normally I’m not the most pro-cop guy, but it seems that there was some actual thought put into the response. More like this please.
July 8th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
It took seven paragraphs to get to the -real- story, which is the resident threatened to kill someone who was not a threat to him.
I don’t like cities passing ordinances telling you how to use or keep your property, but that isn’t why the police were involved. The resident pointed a shotgun at someone who, right or wrong, was cutting his grass. That is why the cops were involved. Just like Tam said, it is exactly what SWAT is meant to handle. And, things were resolved without anyone getting hurt.
July 8th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I think I have better go mow my lawn….
Yes the man overreacted with the shotgun. And as a result the cops came. BUT, honestly, I would think non-ninja cops could have handled the situation. If later they found he had hostages, then well, it’s SWAT time.
I really wish cops didn’t dress like ninjas or the army (at a 4th of July celebration I saw cops with red berets, BDUs, and they marched with shotguns at port arms.
July 9th, 2009 at 4:16 am
Excuuuuuuuuse me. But aren’t you the guys who are always talking about property rights being sacrosanct? You know, as in guns in employers’ parking lots, etc.
I am not taking a particular position on this issue, though I have one, because I thought I might point out the inconsistency here. If you believe in “My property, my rules”, then you cannot disapprove of the homeowners shotgun response to a stranger trespassing his property.
So, which is it? Property rights? Or not?
July 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am
The guy had to sign the contract with the Homowners Ass. to live there. So he already signed away most of his property rights. This was a huge over-reaction by him to a non-threat on his property. The guy mowing his lawn isn’t an agent of tyranny (unless you are made of grass) so a simple “get off my lawn, jackass” would have sufficed.
If you are going to sign up for one of those piles of crap homeowners ass. then you don’t care that much about your property rights.
July 10th, 2009 at 1:32 am
I agree Nate, but that doesn’t address the question, does it?