Probably because they’ve never shot a Glock part across the room
But I’ve sent a few 1911 pieces zipping through the air at just under the speed of Nancy Pelosi going to the plastic surgeon.
Tam wonders why folks complain about the 1911 being hard to disassemble. It’s not. It’s just that other handguns are so easy. And don’t require tools.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
“And don’t require tools.”
What tool is required to fieldstrip a 1911?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am
With my girly thumbs, I need the bushing wrench. You know, the one they all come with because most people have weak thumbs. In a pinch, I could probably do it without one. But why?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Raise your hand if you’ve ever shot a Beretta guide rod under the fridge.
/me raises hand
November 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
What, you’ve never launched a Glock firing pin spring?
Seriously, nobody makes a gun design that I cannot klutz up the first time I try to put it back together.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am
“With my girly thumbs, I need the bushing wrench.” Ohhhhhhh, a non-standard 1911 part, contrary to JMB’s design. That makes sense.
The only thing I could think of til I read that was the grip screws sort of needes a screwdriver that isn’t a part of the 1911. But you don’t need to take the grips off for full detail strip or field strip, normally, do you?
And what’s with that special tool that Glock guys keep on their key chain to detail strip a Glock?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I’ve never detail stripped a glock. haven’t had a need. But that special tool is a punch. Or a twig.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
The actual “1911” is a USGI pistol with a stubby guide rod and a ~16# recoil spring with a captured plug. Pretty much anybody can use their thumb on that plug, but for very small children and cerebral palsy victims, the floorplate of the magazine is shaped just like the recoil plug and may be used to depress it.
On the other hand, if you have a “1911 pattern” pistol with a full-length guide rod, a ~20# recoil spring, a razor-edged hollow plug, and an “LDA” trigger system, you don’t have a 1911. An actual 1911 may be stripped to the bare frame using only its own parts as tools.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I agree with Tam. And I even have a FLGR with razor plug. a TAURUS Pt1911 to boot!
November 24th, 2009 at 11:05 am
So that one 1911 is easy peasy? But the others that most people own aren’t? That’s probably why they complain about them.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Does bare frame include removing the mainspring housing, and if so, what part do you use to push the pin out – the firing pin?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
How many legs does a dog have it we call the tail a leg? 😉
The problems a lot of people are having with their 1911-esque guns are just not problems one would have with an actual 1911.
Launching the plug? Shouldn’t happen. The GI plug has a hook inside it so that it can be captured on the open end of the recoil spring. This is why 1911 recoil springs have one flat end and one open end. Don’t have a hook in your recoil plug? Shoulda bought a 1911.
But still, even if you venture far away from the actual 1911, say to some chopped-down, captured recoil spring, double-stack LDA monstrosity, it’s still not rocket surgery. To hear people go on about it, you’d think it was closer to building a moon rocket than it was to changing a tire.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:46 am
The axle of the thumb safety.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I tend to equate 1911 as all 1911s, even the odd ones, since I’m not that familiar with them. I don’t think they’re all that hard to disassemble but they’re not as easy to disassemble as more modern pistolas.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Yes.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
The Colt 1911 A1 is harder than other guns styled the same. I have Star and is it so easy I love the diassemble. My S&W is more difficult but still easier, just fragile.
I was cleaning a Ruger 22 and had a hard time putting it together. Insructions and all. Finally did but it was not easy to get the right anglr and twist took time. Scared I was going to force it and damage it.
Practice makes the most difficult task easy. The real issue is how easy the first time.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Oh, come on. A Ruger Mark II, now that’s hard…
November 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Yet another reason to pack a gun that wasn’t designed 98 years ago…
November 24th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
ehh… I’ve lost the plastic roller bearing that sits in the end of the extractor spring assembly on my Glock 23. It was only due to the fact that I had never taken down the slide before and didn’t know that thing would shoot off if done incorrectly.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Hyman Roth,
If you’re having to field strip your heater in the middle of a shootout, yur doin it rong.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:49 am
“And don’t require tools.”
Try a Ruger Mark III – the instructions suggest using a hammer.