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Unpossible

And there’s an awful lot of Tec-9 stuff lately:

A plainclothes police sergeant shot and killed an armed street peddler during a clash at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square Thursday morning, police sources said.

[…]

Sources said the sergeant shot the gunman, who was selling compact discs, after the suspect fired his own weapon, a loaded Tec-9 semi-automatic handgun.

That’s the second Tec 9 in a week in the press, which seems odd. I wonder if these are actually Kel-Tecs?

Update: AP says it’s a Mac-10 machine pistol. I still wonder why the press bothers identifying guns since they suck at it and usually get it wrong.

18 Responses to “Unpossible”

  1. The Duck Says:

    Well it’s good the bad guys like those guns since they seem to jam so easy, it makes it easier for the good guys

  2. Mik Says:

    First article “updated at 3:20pm” from Tec-9 to “MAC-10 machine pistol with 27 bullets in the magazine.”

  3. JJR Says:

    “MAC-10 machine pistol with 27 bullets in the magazine.”

    pfft.
    There are extended Glock magazines bigger than that.

  4. Pete Says:

    Gotta whip the sheeple into a frenzy for AWB 2.0 somehow.

  5. Crucis Says:

    Well, at least they called the Tec-9 a “semi-automatic” pistol. As if they knew what that meant.

  6. Lyle Says:

    I note that the suspect “…fired his…loaded Tec-9…” as opposed to having fired an unloaded one I suppose, which would be something of a stunt. Good thing they made that distinction, or I’d be sitting here wondering; “He fired his gun, but was it actually loaded at the time he fired it…?”

    Reminds me of the frequent use of “6:00 AM in the morning” so as to avoid anyone coming to the conclusion that it’s 6:00 AM in the evening, or 6:00 PM in the morning, being discussed.

    I guess this is why we refer to “journalists” rather than, say, “educated, professional writers who document facts”. There is an important distinction.

  7. _Jon Says:

    As soon as I saw the ticker scroll I thought; “Unpossible” – there are no handguns in NYC.

  8. Guav Says:

    And here it says it was a “Mac-10 semiautomatic machine pistol.”

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/10/police-shoot-man-at-hotel-in-times-square/

    Also says :

    On the man’s body, police found a business card for a Virginia gun dealer, Gary A. Lewis, who runs Gary’s Guns & Transfers in Manakin-Sabot, a pair of villages northwest of Richmond.

    Hand-written on the back of the card, the police said, were these words: “I just finished watching ‘The Last Dragon.’ I feel sorry for a cop if he think I’m getting into his paddy wagon.” The gun had been reported stolen in Richmond on Oct. 28, the police said.

  9. SayUncle Says:

    For serious? Odd note.

  10. NatefromOgden Says:

    WHy do the journos always think they need to tell what kind of weapon was used in a crime? Especially in NYC where all handguns are outlawed? We never hear about the brand or type of booze JoeBlow was drinking when arrested for driving drunk or causing a vehicular homicide. (/sarcasm)

  11. Guav Says:

    I dunno Nate, I think it helps to paint the picture and is a relevant detail (if accurate).

  12. nk Says:

    A “street peddler”? With a semi-auto clone of a machine pistol? A NYC cop? And a NYC “journalist”? Well, I certainly believe everything they tell me.

  13. Johnny I Says:

    Hey Unc–on my G1, and didn’t see an email right away, but wanted to let you know–plenty of pretty favorable coverage of a foiled armed robbery on the local Fox 5 and PIX/CW news on Long Island. Perps shot first, he returned fire, held one of them after taking a hit in the side. Got a gun for the jewelry store after being robbed the first time. Interviewed him (back at work) and let him talk–will be on Good Day NY (Fox) tomorrow AM. Will post a link if I see one–mainstream baby!
    BTW Fox here is not like FNC. PIX anchor though had to say “that’s one way to think about it” after the story (which was pro defense)

  14. Johnny I Says:

    Here’s a link — http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/long_island/091210-jeweler-back-to-work-after-getting-shot

    They’ll probably have some video–

  15. thorn Says:

    Hey Uncle,

    On this:

    “I still wonder why the press bothers identifying guns since they suck at it and usually get it wrong.”

    I can’t speak for that particular journalist, but I can say that every time our station identifies a weapon – we give it the label that the police themselves provided.

    That includes the time we called it an “assault rifle” when clearly it was a shotgun. For better or worse, we generally expect that the LEO/spokesman giving us the info is giving us CORRECT info. 😉

    Best 🙂

    thorn

  16. comatus Says:

    Nate, in my town, whenever an SUV-like vehicle is involved in an accident, the newspaper reports the make and model. They don’t do this with semis, autos (see what I did there?), or motorcycles. Pretty obvious. It’s a public service.

    The NRA or even the BATFE could lend the gentlemen of the press a gunny’s version of the PDR, but it would likely end up in the same place as their UPI stylebook & language usage guide.

    Why? ‘Because they can.’

  17. Sebastian-PGP Says:

    So let’s get this straight. The guy or his contacts peruse the wares of various gun shops in VA to see what they’re going to steal…they steal it, and Der Fuhrer Bloomberg gets a new talking point about how Virginia (one of the least criminal infested states in the union) is responsible for crime?

    Got it.

  18. RML Says:

    While there’s some fun to be had in bashing this thing called “the media”, remember that – as thorn says – news stories most often report what they are told by witnesses or by law enforcement. Reporters are generalists, and the gun story might be one of three of four they have to cover in a day. Witness says “it was an assault weapon” reporter writes “witness says it was assault weapon”. NYPD says CD guy had a MAC-10, the reporter goes with MAC-10, then moves on to cover city council, dog show, school board, writes holiday feature, covers trial, attends speech, writes weather story, goes to plane crash, goes to scene of another shooting or drug bust, cops and neighbors give quotes on “assault weapons” or cache of high powered rifles . . .

    A reporter doing general daily assignments is limited to what their sources say. Perhaps more local gun clubs should do annual meets ups with reporters and do “Firearms 101” talks, or gun savvy reporters could help their co-workers along on these matters. As we all know, this is a very rich and deep field of study and interests, and there’s a lot to learn, so give a usually well meaning man or woman with a notepad or a camera some measure of understanding.

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