Funny right there
ACK quotes captain coo-coo banana:
If Al Gore had been President on September 11, 2001, there would have been no bi-partisan, United We Stand language coming from conservatives. The aggressive, partisan response we have seen to even this failed attack would have almost certainly meant impeachment proceedings against President Gore sometime in late 2001 or early 2002.
No doubt because Al Gore’s response would have been to plant trees in Afghanistan. Hey, it’s their alternate reality. I can make one up too.
December 31st, 2009 at 11:14 am
My guess is that had Al Gore been president, he would have followed the Clinton model and launched a retaliatory cruise missile attack at some empty buildings in the middle of the night, issued an arrest warrant for Osama Bin Laden and called it a day.
Obama tried to blame Bush and his policies for the panty bomber attack so I don’t see any problem with republicans pointing out that Obama is the current commander in chief and that this screw up belongs to him. 8 years after 9/11 there is no excuse for allowing a terrorist to get that far.
You have to give democrats credit for chutzpah for daring to accuse anyone of politicizing national security after they practically turned traitor during the Bush administration.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I think he’s right.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I don’t. Americans by and large don’t get along with each other. Until someone attacks us. Then we do unite pretty quickly.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:56 pm
United we Stand like Michael Moore’s infamous letter the day after the 9-11 attacks blaming people in red states for the attack.
Come on, the Left attacked the Bush administration immediately after the attack.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Judging by the Republican response to this latest terror attack, I disagree. By and large, they are using it to attack the administration—not Al Qaeda. Furthermore, they are attacking the administration for handling it much in the same way that the Bush administration handled the Reid shoe bombing, even though they had no problems with it at the time (nor did Democrats attack Bush’s response for that either). Also, we already have Republicans calling for Janet Napolitano’s resignation, while I don’t remember any Republicans calling for Condi Rice’s resignation. Remembering the political climate—Republican’s ceaseless attacks on Clinton—and seeing how they are operating now—pretty much the same—I have no reason to believe that Republicans would have unified with a Democratic administration at all. They simply don’t operate that way.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I had no idea Michael Moore was in government. What was he, a congressman or something?
December 31st, 2009 at 1:09 pm
“The aggressive, partisan response we have seen to even this failed attack ”
So what response, in this writer’s opinion, would be appropriate. Should we say that Janet and company tried and ignore the blatant screw up of not yanking this bomber’s visa when his father pleaded to .gov officials that his son was a threat.
Seriously, if Bush was responsible for a generalized report that said that airplanes may be attacked sometime in the future, then Obama is certainly responsible for a this most recent incident.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
If Condaleeza Rice was responsible for a generalized report that said that airplanes may be attacked sometime in the future, then Janet Napolitano is certainly responsible for a this most recent incident. But no Republicans held Condaleeza Rice responsible or blamed her.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
“I had no idea Michael Moore was in government. What was he, a congressman or something?”
I was referring to the Left in general not to Congress.
The United we Stand rhetoric lasted what, a month, tops. Then the attacks on the Bush Adminstration began and continued for the rest of his two terms.
That’s what politicians do, attack each other. The Repubs. would have done much the same because that’s what they would have thought the people would want. They would have then attacked Gore in much the same manner the Dems. attacked Bush.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
“But no Republicans held Condaleeza Rice responsible or blamed her.”
and how many Dems. are attacking Napolitano? Also, I think that direct evidence of this latest bomber’s intentions including a plead from the guy’s father carries a bit more weight than that extremely general intellegence estimate the Left loves to harp on.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:27 pm
I have not read the article Uncle linked to, just the quote he posted—which is referring to how Republicans in government would have reacted (not Michael Moore, or Ann Coulter) had a Democrat been in office in 2001 instead of a Republican (especially a Democrat from the previous administration they had been attacking almost nonstop). The idea that Republicans would have united with Al Gore is ludicrous.
But of course, you just admitted as much—and defended it as “normal.” So I guess the quote is right.
By the way, which Michael Moore letter are you referring to? I don’t remember it, do you have a link? I remember all sorts of Christians and conservatives blaming the attacks on liberals and atheists, I don’t recall a Michael Moore letter on 9/12 blaming “red states.” I’d like to read it.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Shoes vs. Underwear: The GOP’s New Terror Double Standard
December 31st, 2009 at 2:03 pm
This has the offending quote, long removed from Moore’s site.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3607829/The-importance-of-being-Michael-Moore.html
Here it is from the article:
“They did not deserve to die. If someone did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by killing thousands of people who DID NOT VOTE for him! Boston, New York, DC and the plane’s destination of California – these were places that voted AGAINST Bush!”
I actually read this on September 12. It was on his site then.
So I guess you are hunk dory with the Obama administration’s response to this attack? Seriously, why do you even take the effort to defend Obama. It’s not like he has been that capable of a leader in advancing progressive causes.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
“The idea that Republicans would have united with Al Gore is ludicrous.”
“But of course, you just admitted as much—and defended it as “normal.” So I guess the quote is right.”
How’s that? I said that they would have gone along with Gore for as long as the Democrats “supported” Bush with the United we Stand rhetoric. They would have done so if for no other reason that it would have been the politically expedient thing to do.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/3491421/Afghanistan-promotes-pomegranates-over-opium-poppies-in-farming-overhaul.html
December 31st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
It is very possible that the republicans would have attacked President Gore but they would have done it from the right not the left.
In other words Gore might have found republicans attacking him for being too weak on the enemy but he would have never faced republicans actively trying to undermine the war effort like Bush faced with, to cite one example, Harry “the war is lost” Reid.
The left in this country for whatever reason, for some it was a desire to lose the war in order to damage Bush politically, for others it was a desire to give the USA it’s long deserved (in their view) comuppance for others it was a desire to relive their hippie youth, were basically working toward the same strategic goal as the enemy during the Bush years.
That is what the left does not get. Once the vote has been tallied and the decision to go to war has been made the only discussion that we should be hearing from our “leaders” is on how to best and most decisively win. To undermine the troops (and civilian morale) once our troops have gone into battle like Harry Reid and the rest of the left did was tantamount to giving aid and comfort to the enemy in my estimation.
The left and the right in this country are not two sides of the same coin. They are coming from two completely different world views and to pretend that the right would behave exactly like the left in these circumstances is nonsense.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Please explain how the offending quote—
—is “blaming people in red states for the attack”? It would indeed be offensive if you interpreted it to mean that he wanted the terrorists to have killed red staters—which is a pretty absurd interpretation—but he clearly was not blaming people in red states for the attacks, but rather pointing out how senseless the attacks were.
Yes, as I was also fine with Bush’s response to the Reid shoe-bombing attack. I don’t see the big problem with either response. At least I’m consistent.
Nowhere am I defending Obama (simply not criticizing him), I am merely agreeing with the quote posted that says the Republicans response to 9/11 would have been far different if there had been a Democrat in office at the time. I am talking about Republicans, not Obama.
He is as I expected he would be. The only people who actually believed he was a far leftist progressive were far left nuts and right wing nuts. The rest of us realized he’d not be everything the left wanted him to be, nor everything the right claimed he was.
December 31st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
“Yes, as I was also fine with Bush’s response to the Reid shoe-bombing attack. I don’t see the big problem with either response. At least I’m consistent.”
Hell, I thought both responses sucked so I’m just as consistent as you are. With the latest attack, not getting the bomber’s Visa revoked is the real issue. If TSA can’t get that right, then one has to think if they can get anything right.
December 31st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I have always been of the opinion that the panty bomber, Reid and the rest should be handled by the military as illegal combatants and war criminals which is what they are by definition. The penalty has traditionally been death.
The answer to the hypocrisy charge is simple. George W. Bush’s (also known to the left as Chimpie McHitler) political enemies were so vile, and so over the top that his supporters could not risk giving an inch. I didn’t agree with everything Bush did but in ’04 I donated money and a great deal of my time to his reelection campaign just because his enemies were so despicable.
December 31st, 2009 at 5:46 pm
I am with you in wondering if the TSA can get anything right.