Nature: not so different from sumdood
Tam:
What I want to know is how come the same person who would never walk alone through a dark alley in New York City will go and “experience” the wilderness by themselves without so much as a dull butter knife to their name
March 18th, 2010 at 9:32 am
This is a simple case of TREE HUGGING gon arye…. What an IDIOT, Growing up in the south and the deep woods, over the years there have been many stupid city people do things like this, usually hunting, they go out(dressed in the finest COTTON) and get lost procede to freak out and run getting even more lost and die from exposure. They are usually found frozen clingingto a tree(the only thing they could identify as huggable) and most of the time they will have a map, compass, a thermos of hot coffee and some sort of fire starter either in thier bag or on thier person. This is the irony of it all, they are too STUPID to sit down and build a fire and wait til daylight. I get a real kick out of listening to those “enlightened” city folks talk about us backwoods uneducated dummys on thier liberal faggot talk radio shows and then…….THIS you find one frozen to a tree and well the rest is history…..I have traveled exstensively in my short lifetime, I have experianced things that would make most people Cry and ball up in hte feedle possition. I speak mutiple languages and hold two college degrees, you can take the average county boy and drop him anywhere in the world;may besome comedy of errors, but he will always make his way and be just fine. You can take your average New York City dweller and drop him in great north woods and he last about two maybe three days before he dies with Food, water and shelter all around him and the fact being that he is just too STUPID to see it. BUY MORE AMMO….
March 18th, 2010 at 9:45 am
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March 18th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Wild and animal is not an association they can make. I once knew a woman who was working on her Masters studying Monk Seals. She was very bright and capable. Once we were discussing what I called seal mugging that they did. This was where a bunch of scientists will jump a seal sleeping on the beach, throw a net over it, hold its face down in the sand and give it a non-consensual piercing. She remarked that it wasn’t till one of the seals turned around and bit her that she realized they were wild animals. The remote, uninhabited tropical isle plus animal had not coalesced. And she was the person they had brought in to stop the scientists deploying for a month on an island 1200 miles from anywhere from forgetting their food (yes, it happened) or a critical part of their stove (required an airdrop).
March 18th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
It aint just stupidity Spook, it’s arrogance. These city folks are sooooo much SMARTER than us ignant hicks! But, as you pointed out, they wind up proving themselves wrong. I consider stuff like you mentioned to be a positive form of population control.
JKB, you aint kidding about these people not having a clue as to what the “wild” in wild animal means! Example; In Yellowstone a few years back some geek was upset because he wanted to pose for a picture next to a bull Moose that was nearby but the Moose keep moving away anytime this fool approached him. He could’nt understand why this WILD animal did’nt docily stand still for him like a milk cow at a county fair would! I was hopeing that Bullwinkle would get fed up with that crap and charge him! I’m easily entertained š
March 18th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
This lady wasn’t an idiot, she knew there were risks in the wild and took steps. She was learning.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/150677
She simply didn’t think of wolves as a threat. Her blood is on Patricia Feral and “Friends of Wolves” and their ilk.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
What in the fucking hell is wrong with you peoplewhy are you (and Tam) basically gloating over the fact that this woman was eaten by wolves? And how do you get to the conclusion that she was a tree hugger, hippie or a liberal faggot? Or even a “city slicker” for that mattershe was from Slippery Rock, PA, which has a population of about 3,000 people.
She didn’t have reason to think she was going to get eaten by wolvesnobody has been killed by a wolf in America for 50 years, and she’s the first person ever to be killed by a wolf in Alaska. Of course there are dangers in the wild. There are dangers in the city too. I have a much greater chance of getting killed by a speeding cab than she had of getting eaten by wolves, but I still cross the damn street every day.
Yeah, that stupid bitch, how dare she move to Alaska and go jogging, she deserved it. And of course she was a liberal faggot, she was a special needs teacher. Only a liberal would care about people with special needs and go joggingreal conservatives hate retards and exercise is for faggots.
Seriously, what the fuck.
March 19th, 2010 at 12:15 am
Sorry guav, but she in only the 1st person we now of that has been eaten by wolves in alaska. If they leave no evidence, no one suspects them, especially with the mind set of “no one gets killed by wolves” bouncing around their heads.
March 19th, 2010 at 12:24 am
She didn’t have reason to think…” You could have stopped right there, Guavk,and covered her problem.
She was obviously too smart to consider asking any of the iggorant locals what breed those big funny dogs were that she saw every once in a while jogging in the early morn.
March 19th, 2010 at 1:00 am
Nor are wolves, specifically, the only possible threat on a deserted road in the middle of nowhere in our largest state.
March 19th, 2010 at 3:57 am
emfdl and the rest,
Check my post and the link above. She was learning from the locals, she did take the wilderness seriously.
She made one bad call in thinking only of bears as a real threat, and thus deliberately chose while they were denned up to make her long runs outside town. A decision which, though wrong, wasn’t made out of arrogance nor was it particularly foolish.
I live up here, have my whole life. I’m aware of wolves as a potential threat, but as a “present” threat they rank well below moose and feral dogs (or stumbling into a patch of devil’s club, or stepping on a yellow jacket nest, or tripping while crossing a creek or any numbe of things with a statistical probability in even the tenths of a percent).
The odds of getting killed by wolves in Alaska are less than getting hit by lightning. This was a statistical anomoly, a tragedy, not an opportunity to play “neener, neener I’m better than you fancy city folk”.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Guav,
I must have missed the parts where I was:
A) Gloating
2) calling her a “city slicker” or a “liberal faggot”, or
iii) Using hippie in anything other than a sardonic sense directly referring to the use of “experience” as an active verb.
On the other hand, unlike you, I don’t feel concerned in the slightest with my failure to knot myself in balls of faux grief over the entirely preventable deaths of people I don’t know and, John Donne to the contrary, whose demise neither diminishes nor much affects me.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Matthew,
That’s why I referred to her as an Alaskan, not as a “city slicker” or whatever.
However, going alone into untamed woods containing untamed animals and getting attacked by said animals is a “tragedy” in exactly the same way a broken bungee cord dangling above a pile of canyon pizza is. Shit happens.
March 19th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Some of the comments look like gloating (tree hugger, arrogance, yada yada).
My intent was to remind folks that nature is dangerous.
March 19th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Tam, it’s pretty obvious my comment was directed not solely towards youespecially since including you was an afterthoughtso the specific things I mentioned that you didn’t say weren’t directed at you, but to the people who said them. If it ain’t about you, it ain’t about you.
Still, your post was mocking and insultingas are the comments hereand seemingly without reason. I’m still boggled by the majestic leaps of imagination and assumption it took you guys to conclude that she was a hippie, a tree hugger or a city slicker. Looks to me like you all just made some shit up to fit your desired narrative.
I’m not knotted into balls of grief eitherreal or fauxand I don’t think you guys should feel it’s a tragedy or make a post about how terrible it is. I just also don’t think there should be making posts essentially mocking the situation is all.
I just don’t get it, basically.
March 19th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
If I saw a post on an NYC blog about some tourist who did something moderately dangerous but completely normallike crossing the streetand got mowed down by a cab, or if they were raped and killed by a gang of “youths,” and the commenters were chortling about how that dumb conservative redneck had no business doing things like walking around NYCespecially with no evidence whatsoever that the person was a conservative or from a rural area in the first placeI’d think they were a bunch of assholes too. And so would you.
March 19th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Guav,
But it’s all about me.
Mocking and insulting is what I do. It’s my bag, baby.
You seem to persist in trying to find some Red State/Blue State metaphor in my snide commentary that just ain’t there, Mr. Rorschach.
March 19th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Tam, you are a big mean fartface.
March 19th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
That’s the spirit! š
March 20th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Kind of amazing. Tam points out ‘Nature only gives you two chances if you’re very lucky, most only get one’ and that becomes ‘gloating, mocking and insulting’.