Sig P238. It’s down right slick. A friend has one and she absolutely loves it. She calls it her baby 1911. She can slip it in her back pocket and you can barely notice it. She also tosses it in her apron at work and you don’t see it.
The wife has nerve damage that makes it difficult to rack the slide on most semi autos, she has no problem with the 238. It’s next on our list to add to the bag.
I’m not to fond of carrying it that way either since it’s single action only. However if they would make a DA/SA version of the 238 with a decocker, that would be heaven.
Laurel has a stiff sleeve holster for it so I don’t think she’s that worried about it. Thing I find annoying though is getting the sleeve holster off when you need it.
Mike W. Hence my first post. Yeah everyone can say that their favorite gun in 9mm/.40/10mm/.45 is only this much bigger ><, but really I think it HAS to be smaller than her Bursa Thunder.
I'd say .380 would be good – she can stick to one ammo. Better than .25/.32.
And I posted on her blog that my compact wife loves her LCP.
Breda is small-framed and looking for something smaller than her Bersa Thunder. It might be a good idea to stick with .380 over .25/.32. I “vote” for the Ruger LCP – my wife is also small and she loves her LCP.
The thing is, the Bersa Thunder is a nice, shootable handgun with real sights and a good trigger. Hate to step down from that to a bad-breath gun like the Kel-Tec or Ruger. You want a useful gun, not just a little one.
The Kahr P380 is about the only gun in the micro category I’d be interested in toting. It is indeed micro. Weighs 10 oz and is small, slim and uber concealable.
Go handle one. It costs about twice as much as an LCP / P3AT, but I think it’s worth it for the build quality, for a GOOD TRIGGER (a smooth DAO, which makes far more sense than the SIG P238 — as Unc suggests, cocked-and-locked on a tiny pocket pistol is a bad idea), and GOOD SIGHTS, including the option of great factory tritiums.
The P3AT has these wee, vestigial, sight-like nubs that are kinda depressing. The LCP is not much better.
The Sig P238 can be broken beyond home repair during reassembly, by over-depressing the ejector during slide reattachment. That sounds like a design fault to me.
The plastic trigger also is a bit worrisome.
Other than those two issues and the price, looks like a good update/copy of the Colt Mustang.
I have one of the Bodyguard .380s, though I still haven’t had it on the range. I’ve read of some iffyness with the laser buttons, though mine are great (and there’s one on each side!) The real problem I’ve had is it just won’t feed some brands of ammo. I hope this works out with a few rounds through.
January 4th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
When in Ohio I pocket carry Breda.
January 4th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
If I were in the market for a .380, I’d buy a Sig P238, stick a LaserGuard on it and never want for an awesome .380 again.
January 4th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
I’m partial to the Kahr PM9. Slightly larger than the 380s, but cheaper to shoot.
January 4th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
There is alway the Beretta 950 Jetfire, and a cup of coffee.
January 4th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Sig P238. It’s down right slick. A friend has one and she absolutely loves it. She calls it her baby 1911. She can slip it in her back pocket and you can barely notice it. She also tosses it in her apron at work and you don’t see it.
The wife has nerve damage that makes it difficult to rack the slide on most semi autos, she has no problem with the 238. It’s next on our list to add to the bag.
January 4th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
I’m not a fan of putting a 1911 style handgun in my pocket.
January 4th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I’m not to fond of carrying it that way either since it’s single action only. However if they would make a DA/SA version of the 238 with a decocker, that would be heaven.
Laurel has a stiff sleeve holster for it so I don’t think she’s that worried about it. Thing I find annoying though is getting the sleeve holster off when you need it.
January 4th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I also forgot to add, Laurel can carry in the back pocket, she’s shown it, but I’ve never actually seen her carry it that way though.
January 4th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
I’m not sure if Breda was thinking about pocket carry. She was looking at the shoulder thing that goes up…
January 4th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
I think we have to keep in mind that Breda’s already pocket sized, so a “small” gun to one of us might be massive for her. 😉
January 4th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Mike W. Hence my first post. Yeah everyone can say that their favorite gun in 9mm/.40/10mm/.45 is only this much bigger ><, but really I think it HAS to be smaller than her Bursa Thunder.
I'd say .380 would be good – she can stick to one ammo. Better than .25/.32.
And I posted on her blog that my compact wife loves her LCP.
January 4th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
…Because a cop wont fit in my pocket! Ha!
January 4th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Not sure where my comment disappeared to.
Breda is small-framed and looking for something smaller than her Bersa Thunder. It might be a good idea to stick with .380 over .25/.32. I “vote” for the Ruger LCP – my wife is also small and she loves her LCP.
January 4th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
overactive spam filter.
January 4th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
“overactive spam” What happens when Hormel gets their hands on yogurt culture.
January 4th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
The thing is, the Bersa Thunder is a nice, shootable handgun with real sights and a good trigger. Hate to step down from that to a bad-breath gun like the Kel-Tec or Ruger. You want a useful gun, not just a little one.
The Kahr P380 is about the only gun in the micro category I’d be interested in toting. It is indeed micro. Weighs 10 oz and is small, slim and uber concealable.
Go handle one. It costs about twice as much as an LCP / P3AT, but I think it’s worth it for the build quality, for a GOOD TRIGGER (a smooth DAO, which makes far more sense than the SIG P238 — as Unc suggests, cocked-and-locked on a tiny pocket pistol is a bad idea), and GOOD SIGHTS, including the option of great factory tritiums.
The P3AT has these wee, vestigial, sight-like nubs that are kinda depressing. The LCP is not much better.
January 4th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
The Sig P238 can be broken beyond home repair during reassembly, by over-depressing the ejector during slide reattachment. That sounds like a design fault to me.
The plastic trigger also is a bit worrisome.
Other than those two issues and the price, looks like a good update/copy of the Colt Mustang.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Well, most of you know how I feel about the 1911 design…
The Ruger LCP has sights that are easy to miss. Get the laser if you buy one. Hoffman’s has the raspberry-frame LCP for $249.95.
The S&W Bodyguard380 has much better sights and a built-in laser (instead of a clip-on). Easier to get a grip on too.
January 5th, 2011 at 1:45 am
I daily carry a KelTec P-32 in a pocket holster. I highly recommend it and the p-3AT.
That said, if I were buying right now, I’d look for a new Ruger LC9. Better stopping power, not much bigger, and Ruger’s LCP is a proven design.
sks review
January 5th, 2011 at 7:30 am
I have one of the Bodyguard .380s, though I still haven’t had it on the range. I’ve read of some iffyness with the laser buttons, though mine are great (and there’s one on each side!) The real problem I’ve had is it just won’t feed some brands of ammo. I hope this works out with a few rounds through.
January 5th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Well, since the P-3AT is the LCP in disguise I suspect either one is just fine. With a 1″ barrel who needs a sight anyway?
January 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
What about the NAA Guardian .380??? All stainless. A little heavier than the plastic guns but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
January 5th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
I still wish someone would restart manufacture of the Colt M1908 pocket automatic. I still carry mine on occasion.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Seecamp LWS 32. Hides like a .25, hits like a .380.
Or a Rohrbaugh R9, although the muzzle climb on it is substantial. Not a gun for a fast double-tap, but it reeks quality of construction.