You didn’t build that
And you belong to the government. Odd. I thought the government belonged to the people.
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September 5th, 2012 at 10:57 am
A common misperception.
There are two radical theories of government.
1 – free people enter into government for mutual protection against enslavement, robbery and murder
2 – people enter into government for mutual assistance enslaving, robbing and murdering.
Libertarians believe in #1, liberals believe in #2, and conservatives split.
September 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Hmmm. Someone down there in Charlotte needs a History Lesson.
“We, the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
The rest of the Document tells the World what the People’s EMPLOYEES are allowed to do and not do, and defines SOME (see the 9th/10th Amendments) of the Rights that the BOSSES, i.e. “We, the People” have over our EMPLOYEES.
And ALL members of “Government,” no matter what level, are EMPLOYEES.
But I am glad that they are revealing their True Colors down in Charlotte. Know thy Enemy.
September 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
To be fair, they probably meant “belong to” as in “I belong to the country club” or something, that is, being a member of. With that said, though, that statement was VERY poorly thought out, as it is easy to interpret it in a bad way. Which at first, I did.
To be fair to you guys, though, we don’t know they meant it as harmless, either. Maybe it was meant maliciously. I certainly hope not.
September 5th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
The time has come for the second American revolution….
and if the price of lynching crooked politicians will be high, consider the price your children will pay if the crooks (and the lawyers defending them) are allowed to continue as they done for the past four years.
September 5th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Prodigal Son,
I have the number for a good physical therapist if you hurt youself bending over backwards to give Democrats the benefit of the doubt.
September 5th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Well, a sampling of convention goers reveals many are happy with in their servitude.
Now, consider how do you belong to a government in membership sense. The phrase works, perhaps, if you are British and in the party in power but it just doesn’t work in America.
Even in New England townhall government, no one would say they belong to the government. They might serve in the government, they might come together with fellow citizens to use government for a common purpose, but they wouldn’t subscribe to membership.
Not to mention, it would be membership in a “club” that requires you to join and also to attend certain meetings, like down at the draft board. How can you be a member, an independent constituent of a body, if you have no independence?
September 5th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
“To be fair, they probably meant “belong to” as in “I belong to the country club” or something…”
Except that when asked, people on the floor of the convention expressed the “ownership” interpretation.
September 5th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Come on, guys — the Dems are right: you (already) belong to the government.
Government (especially the federal variety) already tells you what you can and cannot ingest into your own body (see “Drugs, War on”; see also “Raw Milk, War on”)
Government can now legally regulate what you do and what you choose not to do (see “ObamaCare, Permanent Institution of”)
Government can kill you without trial or due process, at the whim of the Executive, if you are deemed a “terrorist” by said Executive (see “Terror, Global War on”)
Government can place your name on a sooper sekrit list (the so-called “No Fly List”) and you do not have the right to ask how you got on the list, who put you on the list, or how you can get off the list. Yet, based on that list, your free right to travel is constrained or nullified — and will be constrained further once TSA gets its maws into the train and bus stations, too.
Government now lays claim to up to half of your income, on a yearly basis, and failure to pay will result in jail or death (should they choose to employ the “SWAT” option on yer ass).
We are peasants, de facto if not de jure; we belong to the Lord of the Manor; and most Americans (liberals and far too many conservatives) are just fine-and-dandy with that.
September 5th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Not just probably. The sentence explicitly compared it to belonging to a church or beloning to a club, so that clearly how it was meant. But of course, it’s election season, so all the Republicans are going to pretend it meant something else because all that matters is scoring point for Red Team/Blue Team.
September 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
But I don’t belong that way either.
September 6th, 2012 at 6:30 am
This.
The statement is wrong no matter how you interpret it. It is offensive to the very nature of America in one particular interpretation.
It was a stupid thing for the Democrat Party to air at their convention, and they are even stupider by trying to back-pedal away from it, claiming they had nothing to do with it. If you honestly expect me to believe that they did not vet everything displayed at their convention, you must have a bridge to sell me too.
September 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
From a post by Kevin Baker:
There is a story, a joke in some ways, an allegory in others, that dates way back. In it, a British Lord travels to the Frontier West, America in the 1800’s. His horse throws a shoe on the trail, so at the first little frontier town he comes to, he finds a blacksmith’s shop to have the shoe replaced. As he rides up, he sees a large, sweaty, filthy man hammering on a piece of red-hot iron. The Lord sits on his horse, waiting to be served, but the blacksmith doesn’t pay him any attention and continues to work his iron. Finally, the Lord, outraged to have been ignored this way by an obvious servant, dismounts, approaches the ‘smith, and taps the man on the shoulder with his riding crop.
“You, man!” he barks, “Who is your Master! I wish to have a word with him!”
The blacksmith turns, looks at the Englishman, spits a stream of tobacco juice on the point of the Lord’s boot and says,
“That sumbitch ain’t been born.”
That’s one idea Americans share.
I don’t know who those people the “belong” to the government are but I do know this: they are *not* Americans.
Re: Mike’s comment @8. They can make that claim all they like. That doesn’t make it true.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Hey, don’t blame me for people who are happy to consider themselves property of the government. I try to give most people the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise. If you think about it, that’s actually a principle that is in the Constitution itself. (Yes, I know this isn’t a trial, so quit your complaining. I’m not stupid.)
And no, Xman, I don’t need a physical therapist. What I need is a third party that actually has a chance of beating the statists in both parties.
Finally, if you don’t want to consider yourself a member of the government, fine. That really is a matter of how you interpret the term “member”. I consider myself to be a member of the government because, at least in theory, I have a say in how it works.